Everything as a service? Not so fast
A reseller argues in favour of on-premise solutions versus the cloudBy Randal Jackson, Wellington | Monday, 02 July 2012
With all the talk of the cloud over the past few years, you'd be forgiven if you thought that on-premise solutions were a dead-end.
Of course, this isn't the case, but the idea becomes clearer if you talk to Mike Ross, director of systems integrator and software developer Holistec Systems in Wellington.
“If the cloud is so popular, why are so many people still buying servers?” Ross asks.
He answers his own question. “The cloud serves email, but the rest of what the cloud offers is still fraught with issues around our ridiculous broadband. It’s third world latency, speed, uptime and volume limits. Half my time is spent fixing internet connections.
“Servers are still required for most documents and applications like MYOB.”
Holistec Systems sells IBM product, which Ross is very enthusiastic about.
“As a reseller, I can tell you that people prefer IBM over HP or Dell. People accept our advice because resellers are seen as trusted advisers. It’s certainly that way in the SME market (he measures SME as up to 100 users).”
Out of curiosity, he conducted a recent experiment, comparing a six-year-old IBM X236 server, rated for 10 users, with the current 10-user X3650 model. “We uploaded a 16GB SQL database on each: the older model took 1 hour 10 minutes; the new model three and a half minutes. The pricing for each is similar.
“IBM has done a lot of work with NUMA (non-uniform memory architecture), faster processors and increased the transfer rate of its hard drives from 3GB per second to 6GB per second.
“HP and Dell servers are more complex because they add all sorts of tools and utilities. They say these add value but they have the reverse effect, making the servers more complicated, slow and proprietary.
“IBM used to be like that but they’ve now driven out the complexity and simplified them.
“Customers never complain about their servers being too fast.
“IBM also has a fantastic help desk, out of Australia, for the reseller.”
Ross concedes that the more complex products might be quite a different proposition in enterprise and government sites.
seems Holistec Systems have done themselves no favours with this article. I don't think he really knows what he is talking about either.
in the same category as Virtual Infrastructure Professionals (VIP)
Posted by Anonymous at 05:28 on July 4, 2012
hahah love the comment relating to VIP. Same basket. RN needs to get some proper intel.
Posted by Anonymous at 06:04 on July 5, 2012
Did he buy you a good lunch? I can't believe you put your name to this garbage.
Posted by Anonymous at 09:01 on July 3, 2012
What an absolute joke of an article.
Posted by Anonymous at 14:27 on July 3, 2012
Even if you deploy a new server, who is their right mind would install a single OS? Virtualise the thing and deploy several servers, just one of which happens to be SQL.
Suddenly NUMA makes sense, (doesn't really for a sinlge OS). And now all those HP utilities make sense so that you can correctly manage the resources. Oops, sorry I mentioned HP there in your IBM advertorial.
Posted by Joanne Lowery at 11:36 on July 2, 2012
"IBM has done a lot of work with NUMA (non-uniform memory architecture), faster processors and increased the transfer rate of its hard drives from 3GB per second to 6GB per second.
Come on RN you should be checking before you go to print, at least one of the other vendors mentioned in your article has been using both of these technologies for alot longer than IBM. Also to say that by adding management tools & utilities HP & DELL make the servers "slow & proprietry" without even mentioning IBM System x Toolcenter (which can only manage IBM servers)and is probably one of the worst management stacks in todays market proves that either the interviewer or interviewee have no real idea on what is available in the market today
Posted by Hope IBM pay for this article at 11:05 on July 2, 2012
Come on, give him a little credit - he's managed to work out that a server based on a NetBurst Xeon with U320 SCSI and a single gigabit link runs a bit slower than one running an E5600-series Xeon with SAS and two gigabit links (only two though - G7 and G8 Proliants have four!).
Of course he had to actually run the things up to prove it, but there you go.
Posted by Andrew Joll at 11:17 on July 2, 2012
The majority of this article is stating how fantastic IBM servers are, and has near no content discussing cloud solutions. It also shows a lack of understanding how the term "cloud" can be interpreted.
Posted by Anonymous at 09:01 on July 2, 2012
Agreed. I don't see what someone pushing a particular brand has to do with the cloud. Who do I write to to get free advertising about how wonderful I think HP Proliants are?
Posted by Andrew Joll at 11:11 on July 2, 2012
Yeah, surely you could have tried to dress it up a bit more.
Posted by Anonymous at 10:49 on July 2, 2012
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